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	<title>Comments on: Garland: A Chronology in Point Form</title>
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	<description>Austin web designer - Adam Freetly</description>
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		<title>By: Habari at Uidotcom</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/geek/blogging/garland-a-chronology-in-point-form/comment-page-1#comment-12480</link>
		<dc:creator>Habari at Uidotcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] today after seeing a brokenkode design post. then by a long trail of comments, etc in brokenkode, i found out what happened. following the links around the first link practically enfolds everything. quite a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] today after seeing a brokenkode design post. then by a long trail of comments, etc in brokenkode, i found out what happened. following the links around the first link practically enfolds everything. quite a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/geek/blogging/garland-a-chronology-in-point-form/comment-page-1#comment-12471</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>open source means open to tap, to spread, to port, to share, to copy, manipulate, do whatever with it that must be done. if somebody decides to make a theme available to other systems for their users to benefit from a themes &quot;usability&quot; then the porter is a good mover. its about the theme, not so much about drupal against wordpress. its clear that users will notice both systems to be awesome tools. 

and in a few months people will get bored about the colorpicker thing anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>open source means open to tap, to spread, to port, to share, to copy, manipulate, do whatever with it that must be done. if somebody decides to make a theme available to other systems for their users to benefit from a themes &#8220;usability&#8221; then the porter is a good mover. its about the theme, not so much about drupal against wordpress. its clear that users will notice both systems to be awesome tools. </p>
<p>and in a few months people will get bored about the colorpicker thing anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: Turnabout &#171; sunburntkamel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turnabout &#171; sunburntkamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Okay, it&#8217;s not exactly the same (wordpress.com is © Automattic). Wordpress.com&#8217;s new site banner has been ripped: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: hummy&#8217;s Garland wars in Russian &#171;</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/geek/blogging/garland-a-chronology-in-point-form/comment-page-1#comment-12470</link>
		<dc:creator>hummy&#8217;s Garland wars in Russian &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2006 15:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Сие, в основном, скорый перевод оттуда -&gt; [http://sunburntkamel.archgfx.net/2006/12/13/garland-a-chronology-in-point-form/]. (Хронология событий вокруг довольно кульной визуальной темы - Garland, которая, например, установлена у меня сейчас). Там, в оригинале, ссылки на посты есть, тоже интересно почитать, что делает с людьми GPL. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Сие, в основном, скорый перевод оттуда -&gt; [http://sunburntkamel.archgfx.net/2006/12/13/garland-a-chronology-in-point-form/]. (Хронология событий вокруг довольно кульной визуальной темы &#8211; Garland, которая, например, установлена у меня сейчас). Там, в оригинале, ссылки на посты есть, тоже интересно почитать, что делает с людьми <acronym title='GNU General Public License'><span class='caps'>GPL</span></acronym>. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ventureskills</title>
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		<dc:creator>ventureskills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Dec 2006 00:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@adam
This like the misunderstanding in my comments is simple a communication breakdown, the point I was trying to make was that the Drupal community has been made out to be pitch fork waving gang, while the majority seem to be in favour of Wordpress using their theme after all that&#039;s the point of open source its there for all to use, so it isn&#039;t a matter of ethics or courtesy these are important and I never implied they weren&#039;t but simply not the issue, should Matt have done this prior to Drupal 5.0 launch given the emails that had been sent it would have been nice to hold back, why didn&#039;t he, a breakdown in communication somewhere.

Has this harmed Drupal penetration into CMS not at all its probably helped to reach a whole new audience who have been watching this debate and realise that the version of Garland they have is effectively crippleware and may be tempted to try out the real deal via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drupal.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;drupal.org&lt;/a&gt; after all, all news is good news, of course when the blogging community goes on a witch hunt or tries to burn the barn down because of a couple of badly worded posts it might not be the case but for the now the analogy holds.

With regards to brands the nice thing is that Drupal allows instant changes with no outward sign a site is powered by Drupal so in its case themes as a brand is diminished and I suspect given the number of variants of Wordpress themes your Kubric analogy doesn&#039;t really stand up at least for lay men though I take your point. Did you know Kubric has been ported to Drupal ;) amongst others making it one of the most widely adopted themes across CMS in general not just Wordpress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@adam<br />
This like the misunderstanding in my comments is simple a communication breakdown, the point I was trying to make was that the Drupal community has been made out to be pitch fork waving gang, while the majority seem to be in favour of Wordpress using their theme after all that&#8217;s the point of open source its there for all to use, so it isn&#8217;t a matter of ethics or courtesy these are important and I never implied they weren&#8217;t but simply not the issue, should Matt have done this prior to Drupal 5.0 launch given the emails that had been sent it would have been nice to hold back, why didn&#8217;t he, a breakdown in communication somewhere.</p>
<p>Has this harmed Drupal penetration into <acronym title='Content Management System'><span class='caps'>CMS</span></acronym> not at all its probably helped to reach a whole new audience who have been watching this debate and realise that the version of Garland they have is effectively crippleware and may be tempted to try out the real deal via <a href="http://www.drupal.org" >drupal.org</a> after all, all news is good news, of course when the blogging community goes on a witch hunt or tries to burn the barn down because of a couple of badly worded posts it might not be the case but for the now the analogy holds.</p>
<p>With regards to brands the nice thing is that Drupal allows instant changes with no outward sign a site is powered by Drupal so in its case themes as a brand is diminished and I suspect given the number of variants of Wordpress themes your Kubric analogy doesn&#8217;t really stand up at least for lay men though I take your point. Did you know Kubric has been ported to Drupal <img src='http://archgfx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  amongst others making it one of the most widely adopted themes across <acronym title='Content Management System'><span class='caps'>CMS</span></acronym> in general not just Wordpress.</p>
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