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	<title>Comments on: Designers and Busses</title>
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	<description>Austin web designer - Adam Freetly</description>
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		<title>By: GAiL</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/arch/designers-and-busses#comment-1396</link>
		<dc:creator>GAiL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2006 09:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adam! Thanks for the kudos :) And congratulations to you too!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adam! Thanks for the kudos <img src='http://archgfx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> And congratulations to you too!!!</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/arch/designers-and-busses#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 21:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, sorry to generalize your post.  you make a lot of other very good points, and i would be pissed as well if i were rachel.  
certainly portrait painting is another example where an artist is 'commissioned' but they're basically acting as a designer.
and for the other side, the &lt;a href="http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/spain/barcelona/mies/pavilion.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;barcelona pavilion&lt;/a&gt; is a design work that is completely without program, or client input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, sorry to generalize your post.  you make a lot of other very good points, and i would be pissed as well if i were rachel.<br />
certainly portrait painting is another example where an artist is &#8216;commissioned&#8217; but they&#8217;re basically acting as a designer.<br />
and for the other side, the <a href="http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/spain/barcelona/mies/pavilion.html" >barcelona pavilion</a> is a design work that is completely without program, or client input.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris P.</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/arch/designers-and-busses#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 21:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, love the entry, and I appreciate the very sound, very intelligent points that you make.

Although you call me out for comparing commissioned artistry to hired design (and rightfully so), I would like to come to my own defense with a quick example. Recently, BMW hired Joshua Davis to create an image to go along with the new Z4, and the results of his work can be found &lt;a href="http://z4byjd.com/index.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Essentially, BMW hired him because of his unique artistic style, and they pretty much turned him loose to design whatever he pleased.

He was their guy, and they were going to run with his production.

I suppose that I feel much the same about my own design work as well as that of other designers whom I respect. In my unrealistically utopian view, I hope that people hire designers with the idea that they will create something wonderful without the inhibitions of explicit direction and dictation.

Once again, great post. It's always refreshing to read intelligent, balanced commentary that is firmly rooted in reason :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, love the entry, and I appreciate the very sound, very intelligent points that you make.</p>
<p>Although you call me out for comparing commissioned artistry to hired design (and rightfully so), I would like to come to my own defense with a quick example. Recently, BMW hired Joshua Davis to create an image to go along with the new Z4, and the results of his work can be found <a href="http://z4byjd.com/index.php" >here</a>. Essentially, BMW hired him because of his unique artistic style, and they pretty much turned him loose to design whatever he pleased.</p>
<p>He was their guy, and they were going to run with his production.</p>
<p>I suppose that I feel much the same about my own design work as well as that of other designers whom I respect. In my unrealistically utopian view, I hope that people hire designers with the idea that they will create something wonderful without the inhibitions of explicit direction and dictation.</p>
<p>Once again, great post. It&#8217;s always refreshing to read intelligent, balanced commentary that is firmly rooted in reason <img src='http://archgfx.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/arch/designers-and-busses#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>basically, a whole lot of designers were really pissed off by the whole thing.
(&lt;a href="http://5thirtyone.com/archives/304" rel="nofollow"&gt;example&lt;/a&gt;)
my point is that while michael may have been insensitive, he's not to blame  (or at least not wholly) for the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>basically, a whole lot of designers were really pissed off by the whole thing.<br />
(<a href="http://5thirtyone.com/archives/304" >example</a>)<br />
my point is that while michael may have been insensitive, he&#8217;s not to blame  (or at least not wholly) for the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Iffy</title>
		<link>http://archgfx.net/blog/2006/arch/designers-and-busses#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Iffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on that! It's awesome. 

I think I'm confused on the issue of the tech-crunch redesign. I should probably re-re-read your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on that! It&#8217;s awesome. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;m confused on the issue of the tech-crunch redesign. I should probably re-re-read your post.</p>
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